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Post by Scott on Feb 17, 2009 10:03:33 GMT -5
If Iuz was released in 570 CY, how long do you think it would be before he was capable of causing trouble? Specifically, when do you think he could initiate a notable incursion into the Vesve?
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Post by Merkholz on Feb 18, 2009 2:19:09 GMT -5
Seeing that the land of Iuz is composed (mostly) of CE humanoids and wicked humans I think it would take quite a lot of time to usurp total control of that land.
That the area hadn't been swallowed by the more lawful and organized Horned Society indicates some stiff-necked and powerful leaders able to ward off enemy intrusion. That these leaders would be thrilled to see their god/tyrant return seems unreasonable. If Iuz had been gone for 70 years who knows what loyalty he could command just by showing up?
On the other hand, the best way to forge a disparate and rebellious group into a cohesive force might be to present a danger and a common enemy - the elves of the Vesve!
IMO, Iuz would have to spend 1-2 years to fully control the land of Iuz and convince key players that he is a god returned and not just a scam.
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Post by geneweigel on Feb 18, 2009 9:30:27 GMT -5
Heres some relevant bits from ARTIFACT OF EVIL
page 91 has a full page pertaining to the escape and how the HS replaced him in the east and how he had to let them do it
page 117 says will have an army waiting in Vesve
Page 190 goes on about how he starts up the evil populace of the Vesve to his side
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Post by Scott on Feb 18, 2009 13:01:04 GMT -5
The Greyhawk article from Dragon starts out, "After a period of rebuilding...", but that's as specific as it gets, but it's implied that he was moving into the Vesve prior to 577.
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Post by Merkholz on Feb 19, 2009 2:12:18 GMT -5
Indeed, how long does it take to "rebuild" a CE state filled with humanoids and evil humans? What sort of power groups existed before Iouz' release? I imagine that clerics worshipping Iuz would quickly notice if their spells failed and they would be the first to rally around Iuz.
Another point, was Iuz at full strength after he was set free by Robilar?
Would Iuz direct forays into Vesve directly after establishing control or even while still mopping up the resistance?
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