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Post by geneweigel on Jun 22, 2008 19:28:28 GMT -5
I was hoping somebody here could give me some input.
Recently a few years ago my family sold off the "family land" and they kept 3 acres. Anyway the spot that I used to go camping on was on the part they sold to the DEP for a water preserve for NYC. (BTW, I didn't see a dime of that since my relations are a bunch of greedy SOBs!)
I can't seem to find another substitute besides buying land for "going up to the wilderness, throwing out a tent, start a bonfire, then drink heavily and be loud all night".
Since these days I don't have a spare pot to piss in, it seems like buying a chunk of property to camp on isn't an option. I go to these campground websites and it all sounds like a very polite affair with "neighbors" and heavy rules on everything.
Does anybody know any other options for my dilemna or am I shit out of luck?
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Post by Scott on Jun 22, 2008 19:38:52 GMT -5
Well, I have an aunt that owns 125 or so acres in central PA. She's always inviting me up to go camping. I'd meet you up there for a few days.
I haven't really looked into it otherwise.
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Post by stranger on Jun 22, 2008 19:43:35 GMT -5
Although you are not technically permitted you can find many state owned areas you can get away with what you want. The key is to find places with low traffic and few state officals. I live in a corner of MA bordering VT and NY and I have many friends who regularly do what you are describing in all three states. Of course we have a lot fewer people in our area than you have in NYC. On the plus side my area is only 3 hours away from NYC so I know you can find something without going to far.
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Post by GT on Jun 22, 2008 20:37:00 GMT -5
Here in Indiana, most state parks allow fires in designated areas, and you can drink alcohol at your site as long as you're 21. You can be moderately noisy, but the further away from neighboring occupied sites, the better! A few years ago, a friend and I canoed down the Wabash River from Wabash, IN to Logansport, IN. The water level was down a bit as there was a drought starting up and no rain was forecast. As we travelled, we discovered that the land along both sides was either (a) privately owned or (b) parks that prohibited overnight camping! So what we did was find sandbars out in the river that were sufficiently above water level and in rural areas and then parked our canoe and set up shop for the evening! Since we didn't have to worry about any rain, that worked out fine ^__^
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Post by GT on Jun 22, 2008 20:43:43 GMT -5
Here are the official rules for Turkey Run, one of my favorite state parks:
PARK RULES
Turkey Run State Park is for the public. All visitors are expected to observe the following rules which are designed to fulfill the purpose for which state parks were established, namely, to preserve a primitive landscape in its natural condition for the use and enjoyment of the people.
Do not injure or damage any structure, rock, tree, flower, bird or wild animal within the Park. Do NOT gather limbs, brush or trees (either dead or alive) for firewood! They MUST be allowed to remain to rebuild the natural humus.
Any firearm, BB gun, air gun, CO2 gun, bow and arrow, or spear gun in possession in a state park must be unloaded or un-nocked and stored in a case or locked within a vehicle except when participating in an activity authorized by written permit.
Dogs and cats must be kept on a leash no longer than six feet and attended at all times.
There shall be no vending or advertising without permission of the Department of Natural Resources.
Camping is permitted only in the campground. Youth groups must be under adult supervision.
Fires shall be built only in spaces provided.
Please comply with the Carry In/Carry Out trash policy in all day use areas. Overnight guests must put waste in receptacles provided for that purpose.
Motorists will observe speed limits as posted, and park in designated areas.
Swimming is limited to the swimming pool only. Swimming is not allowed in Sugar Creek.
Drinking water should be taken only from pumps, hydrants or fountains provided for that purpose. This water is tested regularly for purity.
Report lost or found articles to the park office.
All motorized vehicles must remain on paved roadway. Snowmobiles are prohibited.
Use of metal detectors prohibited.
Park closes from 11:00 PM until 7:00 AM, and no one is allowed in the park between these hours except for overnight Inn guest and campers.
Please let wild animals remain wild. Feeding deer is prohibited. Feeding of all wild animals can result in harm to both animals and people. Animals that depend on handouts become a nuisance to park visitors and a danger to themselves. Please lock up all food and coolers inside cars or campers.
Please stay on marked trails.
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 22, 2008 21:48:43 GMT -5
Well, I have an aunt that owns 125 or so acres in central PA. She's always inviting me up to go camping. I'd meet you up there for a few days. I haven't really looked into it otherwise. Well, that would be cool. Perhaps have a "field CHAINMAIL" game! |
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 22, 2008 21:56:20 GMT -5
Although you are not technically permitted you can find many state owned areas you can get away with what you want. The key is to find places with low traffic and few state officals. I live in a corner of MA bordering VT and NY and I have many friends who regularly do what you are describing in all three states. Of course we have a lot fewer people in our area than you have in NYC. On the plus side my area is only 3 hours away from NYC so I know you can find something without going to far. I've asked some campers in my family but they acted like I was asking for the secrets of buried treasure. I knew there was something being "hid".  |
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 22, 2008 22:00:53 GMT -5
The weird thing with all these public rules is that I used to keep that private forest immaculate without being told to. And they fucking sold it. I should of dumped toxic waste on it! |
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Post by Scott on Jun 23, 2008 12:11:16 GMT -5
I don't know if I have many vacation days left to schedule, Gene, but I'll see if I can find a few to spend a few days sitting around a fire getting drunk and loud.
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Post by GT on Jun 23, 2008 12:25:37 GMT -5
Hey!! Me too! Me Too!!!!! ^__^
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Post by Scott on Jun 23, 2008 12:30:21 GMT -5
That's even better. I'm sure on 120+ acres we can find a spot where even our combined mouths won't disturb abybody.
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Post by GT on Jun 23, 2008 12:34:36 GMT -5
Ahhh, let the imports and chili flow! ^__^
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 23, 2008 23:33:49 GMT -5
I don't know if I have many vacation days left to schedule, Gene, but I'll see if I can find a few to spend a few days sitting around a fire getting drunk and loud. Would it be possible to bring along 4 other guys? If it would be too much I might have to make two camping trips! |
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Post by Scott on Jun 24, 2008 15:18:32 GMT -5
I'll have to check on that.
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Post by Rhuvein on Jun 24, 2008 21:52:48 GMT -5
Here are the official rules for Turkey Run, one of my favorite state parks: Hey GT. Is this where the Blue Grass Festival was held some years back? If so, I recall the area being very nice. Of course, I just love state parks and camping.  |
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Post by geneweigel on Jul 2, 2008 13:25:50 GMT -5
Hey Scott, anything on the camp thing or is on the backburner for next year?
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Post by Scott on Jul 2, 2008 13:34:42 GMT -5
Nothing in July for sure.
Don't know what I could manage next month.
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