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Post by GRWelsh on May 5, 2021 9:33:31 GMT -5
So my sister and I got our parents an Ancestry.com DNA kit for Christmas and the results finally came back. No surprises on my Dad's side as I already did our genealogy almost thirty years ago with the help of a local library employee. My Dad's report showed up as 77% Scottish and he said, "It looks like I'm going to buy a kilt!" and I said "Not so fast" and pointed out that on the DNA map Scotland included Northern Ireland which is where I said the Welshes came from at Londonderry. On my Dad's father's side we're Welsh by way of Northern Ireland just like I always said. Thomas Welsh came to Philadelphia in 1799 to work as a baker and then in 1819 came to Western Pennsylvania and settled in what is now southern Butler County, close to where I live now. My Dad's grandmother's maiden name on his father's side was McKown and they were from Northwestern Ireland. Thomas McKown arrived in Allegany (Allegheny) County, Pennsylvania in 1844. Dad's paternal grandparents were named Francis George Welsh and Jenny Margaret (Jean) McKown. On my Dad's mother's side, Granny (born Carroll Perry) has proved to be accurate when she always said she was "English, Irish, French, Dutch, German and a little bit of Jew." Granny's father's family was named Perry and they were English. Granny's mother's family was German and although the Jew didn't show up in the DNA, I think her mother's family name of Baumgartel could have had some German Jew. Dad's maternal grandparents were named Charles Perry and Evelyn Baumgartel. On my mother's side, she's always said she was half Slovak, a quarter Lithuanian and a quarter Polish. The DNA chart mostly supported this with the only surprise being the addition of 5% Germanic, 3% Italian and 1% European Jew. I told her we finally have an explanation for why everyone thinks she makes such great spaghetti and meatballs! She started singing "That's Amore!" because she's suddenly proud of her Italian heritage that yesterday she didn't know she had. Mom's maiden name was Pallan, and that family was supposed to be entirely Slovak coming over to America in the early 20th century. Her grandfather, Rudolph Pallan, was secretary for the National Slovak Society established in Pittsburgh in 1890. Mom's grandmother's maiden name on her father's side was was Berger, which that may be where the German came from. My mother's paternal grandparents were named Rudolph Pallan and Elizabeth Berger. My Mom's mother's maiden name was Simons and that family was supposed to be half Lithuanian and half Polish and that seems to be true. My mother's maternal grandparents were named Anthony Simons and Anna M. Bogus.
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May 5, 2021 21:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by geneweigel on May 5, 2021 21:53:58 GMT -5
For you, all dwarves are really Scottish now! Or is it the opposite? "I find your Dwartch brogue offensive!"
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Post by GRWelsh on May 6, 2021 6:53:30 GMT -5
Ha ha, no to me dwarves will always be Germanic or Norse with names like in THE HOBBIT or the Eddas. A funny accent version of them should sound more like the Swedish Chef or people from FARGO ("Ja! You betcha!"). But I turn a blind eye, or deaf ear, to how players want to role-play their characters. Scottish accents for dwarves are not the ideal, they are a lazy stereotype at this point, but I don't complain about them. Ironically, it was the writer of Scandinavian descent, Poul Anderson, who first gave a dwarf named Hugi a Scottish accent in THREE HEARTS AND THREE LIONS (1961), so he may be to blame. But, you betcha, a setting like Oerth is big enough that dwarves could diverge (dverge?) enough to have different accents.
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Post by GRWelsh on May 7, 2021 8:29:35 GMT -5
It's weird how when I do my genealogy I no longer think of myself as something simple. Every person who exists is the result of almost unimaginable complexity -- a lottery winner, so to speak. I'm not just a Welsh, but Welsh/Mckown/Perry/Baumgartel/Pallan/Berger/Simons/Bogus, and that is just considering my eight great-grandparents. Each one of those couples didn't have to happen, and each one of those couples could have produced different children than the ones they did. Each great-grandparent also had eight great-grandparents, who mostly lived lives before they were even born, and who contributed one-eighth to who they were as well. And back it goes, for hundreds and thousands of years... then millions of years, back to the beginning of all life, however that got started. It is amazing to realize I am a living link in that long and undying chain.
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May 7, 2021 9:46:09 GMT -5
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Post by geneweigel on May 7, 2021 9:46:09 GMT -5
This woman asked me if I was Hungarian once and said I had a very Hungarian face. But not a trace unless there is a source for non-Hungarians elsewhere.
I think genetically I belong to my grandparents' line of people but my siblings, while rightly similar to the same components, are completely different creatures. It's like they are part of a penchant for corruption and my default instincts through some strange natural occurrence was grown outside of that." Instead, focusing aggression for helping others. The House of Usher really resonated with me because of this. I 've thought that "Usher" was an observation rather than pure fiction.
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Post by GRWelsh on May 7, 2021 14:14:54 GMT -5
I thought for sure Hungarian would show up since Chicken Paprikash is such a big deal in my family on my mother's side, and I thought I read somewhere that Pallan was a Hungarian name. But it didn't show up in the DNA -- unless the Germanic or Czech/Slovak category includes the possibility of Hungarian.
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Post by geneweigel on Oct 6, 2023 21:47:15 GMT -5
Ancestry.com added more DNA backgrounds now its giving me: Germanic Europe 37% Ireland 26% England & Northwest Europe 18% Northern Italy 5% Cyprus 4% Southern Italy 3% France 3% Greece & Albania 2% Northern African 1% Aegean Islands 1% Aegean Islands? Does this mean that an ancestor said, "The Cretan Bull awaits! Seriously, I told Gary (EGG) that I was probably was part Philistine (The "sea peoples" from the Bible) and now it seems to have been somewhat real.
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Post by GRWelsh on Oct 7, 2023 16:51:08 GMT -5
Not as much Italian as you thought, then? Just another hairy, northern barbarian?
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Post by geneweigel on Oct 8, 2023 14:15:01 GMT -5
Not all the mess is in the Sicilian side, the English and French from the Germanics going back and forth to the UK from the "continent". It turned out great great great grandfather "Charles Boyee" who I thought was French was an Englishman living in France.
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