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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 17, 2020 14:03:27 GMT -5
Hey guys, as DMs can you give your advice how you adjudicate this spell? The spell causes a "billowing mass of nauseous vapors to come into being" -- are the vapors opaque, semi-opaque or transparent? Creatures in the cloud who save versus poison are "helpless due to nausea for 2-5 rounds" and those who save are "helpless only for as long as they remain within the cloud, and for the round after they emerge, because of its irritating effects on visual and olfactory organs" (PH, p. 72). So, basically it is like they've been tear gassed. But, what does 'helpless' mean exactly in game terms? The DMG notes don't address these questions. I don't normally reference 2nd edition, but sometimes it adds clarity to spells. Under the 2nd edition version of this spell (p. 145) it says any creatures who fail their saves are "reeling and unable to attack because of the nausea" and those who save "can leave the cloud without suffering any ill effects."
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Post by Scott on Nov 17, 2020 17:44:11 GMT -5
I would say semi-opaque, like smoke, but not a wall of fog. Since helpless is used to describe no save and save situations, I don’t think it prevents moving, but I would so no attacks and the same defensive penalty as stunned. I would probably allow basic, uncomplicated actions, like pushing a door closed.
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 23, 2020 22:02:18 GMT -5
Lakofka's heavy-handed unofficial ruling (No mention of Gary on this one but is on others[Magic Missile and Protection from Evil]) from, DRAGON #33 (JAN 1980):
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 23, 2020 22:03:54 GMT -5
As for ruling what it looked like I've used tear gas, like you're all referring to, as well as a description.
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