I'm glad to hear it was good. The Thanos storyline is more or less new to me, as I never read any of those INFINITY GAUNTLET comics. I remember as a kid seeing some Jim Starlin stuff, but I never read much of it. Thanos was a rip off of Darkseid, which I knew because I did have some of the NEW GODS comics. I also remember when the Infinity Stones were called Soul Gems... Adam Warlock had the green one and some guy named the Stranger had the yellow one and they fought in an issue of Marvel Team-Up that I had.
It's amazing how much comic book lore they are pulling together into these movies.
Post by geneweigel on Apr 29, 2018 12:48:32 GMT -5
In regards to comics, its as if "Warlock/soul gem" was just an idea for a Starlin character that was fused with the blank slate of "Him" and the High Evolutionary with no regard for a real origin. The Iron Man comic's Starlin slant which birthed Thanos was that brain dead cooley style. The same of which reached full expression in EPIC ILLUSTRATED's Metamophosis Odyssey. Ultimately, Starlin is an asshole but he has good visions for an asshole. That has to be respected.
As for Kirby, all that FF/Thor material is the basis of his work. In Lee friendly eyes they don't see a separation from Lee and that material. Thats why its all confusing.
I got to see this yesterday... Very enjoyable. What luck to be alive now, when all of these comic books we read as kids are being brought to life with such artistry and skill in the movies. The Stan Lee cameos are like the icing on the cake, and I just think that is wonderful that he's lived to see all of this as well. I keep thinking of how, in interviews, he often mentions how he was embarrassed of being a comic book writer when he was young. But to us, the readers, he had this great way of making us feel like we were part of something special...
Post by geneweigel on May 21, 2018 18:13:09 GMT -5
I don't want to discuss but I knew the INFINITY GAUNTLET story fairly well. It is present but to a degree. It doesn't seem like "jazz" (Read: light trash) and seems a well orchestrated update in context. So its really heightend for those that read the mini-series because you can see the approach of two steps back and three steps forward.
Post by geneweigel on Aug 23, 2018 12:37:02 GMT -5
After watching again, its amazing how they captured Thanos. It feels like he has literally leapt off the page. So I wonder if the way they set it up is there going to mention of his father, brother and ISAAC the computer?
I don't know because the way they've set up Drax is terrible so far. Its like he is the post-resurrection dope of the 90's from having his brain fried to death by his daughter in 1982 when she raped Thor because she wanted to control a planet as a "goddess". Thats before she got the headband that inhibited her powers Odin gave her until she was worthy again. So is Drax recalling a false memory or is he an "alien" instead of a "Frankenstein"?
I was thinking the same thing since Thanos was originally an Iron Man villain. And, yeah, they did a great job bringing him to life as a Josh Brolin CGI... He might be the best CGI character ever. Thanos had to be the best Marvel villain so far to pull this movie off, and I think he was. He's menacing, his plan is insane, and yet he's sympathetic. They dropped the whole "courting Death" motivation which may have been for the best since that might be too abstract and metaphysical for movie audiences.
So much of this movie I like just little idiosycrasies that salute the memories of reading so many comics. Contrary to JUSTICE LEAGUE, which is a big bag of ideas that don't mesh, this movie is a movie all by itself which just happens to fit with prior outings and it fits with these tiny acting or featured "gems" that give you a nod. I'd like to point some out but I'd rather wait on it.
Post by geneweigel on Apr 20, 2019 11:16:58 GMT -5
In the foreshadowing of ENDGAME, I was thinking this movie INFINITY WAR was saving the "god" types for the next movie. After several trailers, I still haven't seen any "lady death" visuals. I wonder what that is about? Still hidden or is it just going to be relegated to internal thoughts off screen? Galactus and the other big guns like the Stranger, Chaos, the Celestials, Chronos, etc. are defeated then Eternity shows up and Thanos said that Eternity sent his foot soldiers first. So I mean if what I'm saying is going to happen perhaps all the cosmic beings will be represented by ideas instead of actual physical manifestations. What would Galactus represent? A big sandwich?
They seemed to have dropped the whole idea of Thanos being in love with and trying to prove himself to Lady Death, in favor of him believing he is saving the universe by wiping out half of all life. I'm glad they did because I never understood being in love with Lady Death, and I often have trouble with abstract entities as personalities. What did Thanos expect, to marry Lady Death and start a family? Of course not. To sit on matching thrones and talk about how they are ruling over a graveyard universe? Not very lively. Why would one expect the personification of death to even be capable of love in the first place? It's sort of the antithesis of love, since it is impartial. So that was a non-starter as a motivation. At least believing he can save the universe by reducing population is somewhat relatable even if on a crazy, grandiose scale... Appropriate for the mad titan. I'm not expecting a parade of cosmic entities as seen in the comic books, since it would overwhelm and confuse the casual movie-goer. But I expect them to work in at least one of the cosmic entities -- perhaps the Living Tribunal or Eternity, due to Doctor Strange's prominence in this version of the story. I heard they are going to do an ETERNALS movie, so that may provide us with a hint of what to expect... Celestials returning to earth to judge their creation?
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Post by geneweigel on Apr 24, 2019 21:52:34 GMT -5
Its still up in the air as to what exactly the red carpet people are saying fans are going to love. From my experience with Greyhawk, its like which fans? The comics fans or the movie fans? The whole Hulk angle has literally fizzled. The last taste of Hulk-age was a quick tip to the Planet Hulk comic and Thunderbolt Ross otherwise he seems to be a bad Hercules stand-in for the Widow's love interest.
I just found out I'm going to see ENDGAME tonight. I'll let you guys know what I think. From what I've read, this one is supposed to have a big emotional payoff and I think that means for the movie fans specifically invested in these on-screen versions of the Marvel characters. I'm also not wild about everything they've done with the Hulk, but one thing they get right is that he never fits in well with the team. But Hulk should have torn apart the Hulkbuster with Tony Stark lucky to get out of that fight alive. I can understand Thanos beating Hulk right away in INFINITY WAR because it established dramatically how much of a threat Thanos was. I'm expecting a rematch in ENDGAME!
Okay, I saw ENDGAME and it does bring closure so that is an appropriate title. It is difficult to say anything more without giving spoilers, so I'll just say it was an amazing accomplishment, even if there were a few things I didn't like. The comic book fan in me feels like I've seen a huge crossover event brought to life which I never used to think was possible. In a big fight, I felt like I was looking at a two page comic book spread when they cram in as many characters and as much detail as possible. Yet it also felt very personal. They didn't shy away from complexity, so they needed the full three hours.
I just wanted to say that this time was the first time ever that I did not get refreshments and it was because of some kind of Speed Line in AMC theaters I went back three times and I had to wait 15 minutes each time. So I just kept giving up. So weird. It's like I'm standing at the front of the line and all these people just keep walking up and and the person at the cash register keeps serving them first raising their voice that they are exclusive members like it's some fucking crazy shit that everyone is an exclusive member except for me...