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Post by geneweigel on Jun 2, 2017 7:13:05 GMT -5
I just noticed this yesterday I guess I'm going to be scrounging for details this weekend.
I still think the Ditko Strange stories are the best even though the attempts to marry Cthulhoid material in the 70's seemed cool I think the way that Ditko executed the stories was far superior. Kirby himself said it that the comics must be open to continuation so that someone can do another take on it. I still feel Steve Gerber was too
I think the movie successfully does that however I was wishing to see the mindless ones. The GUARDIANS movies have that level of details but maybe they're in there somewhere. I think the direct plug in to Strange is the scene where Star Lord sees something briefly (no spoilers).
I think the one thing that seems missing is the devil horn fingers thats the Ditko signature for Spidey and Strange. Does he do it or were they avoiding it? Its become a heavy metal staple because of Strange imagery Although one could argue it older than that as a variant counter to the evil eye.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jun 2, 2017 8:25:28 GMT -5
I just watched it on Netflix yesterday. It was good. It didn't really look Ditko to me until they showed the Dark Dimension. I liked the way Dormammu was portrayed, and the way Doctor Strange interacted with him... That felt like the old comics. The odd casting choices and changes didn't bother me as much as I thought they would (the Ancient One as a Celtic woman, Mordo as a black man and not a servant of Dormammu, making Wong a sorcerer and more of a peer, etc.).
At the time, in the 70's, I didn't know about HPL, Cthulhu, etc. But yeah, in retrospect, it is all there. I think a few of the writers Marvel hired in that time period were big fans of the pulp writers of the 30's and brought that stuff in.
The devil horn fingers would have been a nice touch, and maybe they did it in some of the spell-casting and I just missed it... I'll have to look for that when I watch it again. According to Ronnie James Dio, who popularized the devil horn fingers in heavy metal, that came from his Italian grandmother and was a counter versus evil forces.
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 2, 2017 9:13:15 GMT -5
Ronnie James Dio... what was HOLY DIVER about again?
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Post by GRWelsh on Jun 2, 2017 13:01:59 GMT -5
Dio said he and his band didn't start out with a specific concept, and they were just going with what sounded good, but some sort of concept did develop during the writing process... Still, he intentionally left the lyrics vague enough for the listener to fill in the details. Skip ahead to the 1:00 minute mark here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Ln5GW-3as
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 6, 2017 22:41:33 GMT -5
I watched it again tonight and there is one major one that i was looking for originally but went right over my head as the bad guys are defeated.
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