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Post by geneweigel on Dec 7, 2013 15:35:09 GMT -5
Finally got to watch this on Bluray.
Overall, its not bad for an action movie for people with the attention span of a moth.
For Superman fans, its yet another misfire that murders everything possible. Its not even the PCing of the Daily Planet staff in any way whatsoever.
Its like some Hollywood drug-addled producer said:
YO! THUUPE MAN AM AN ALIEN SO'S TAHT MEANS HIM LIKE RIDLEY & RIPLEY AND RIDDICK PART TWO, YO! BUT HE'S GOT DEM PRETTY BOY STUFF LIKE JUSTIN BIEBER AND SHIT, SNAP!!! GET SOME GEEKS TO FIGURE HOW SOME TEK STUFF WORK WITH A THUUPAH MAN CHIP LIKE A USB AND SHIT, DATS DOPE!
Superman is lost here unless you think he is a sex symbol with powers whose origin is built around being famous and tuning out the little guy.
Superman in this movie went from lawful good to neutral.
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Post by Scott on Dec 7, 2013 23:43:43 GMT -5
I still haven't seen it. I heard some really bad reviews early on, but I heard some good ones too. One of these days.
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 8, 2013 22:31:25 GMT -5
Its definitely a Christopher Nolan (Inception, Bale Batman, etc.) combined with a 1990s era graphic novel Elseworlds thing. As soon as some big Hollywood sci-fi person gets their mitts on Supes again I predict another redo this is too off the mark.
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Post by GRWelsh on Dec 9, 2013 13:20:08 GMT -5
I haven't seen it yet, either. A friend of mine who is really into comics says this movie is heavily based upon John Byrne's Superman reboot in the mid-1980's, which was also named Man of Steel. I remember this comic coming out, but I did not read it. I was a fan of Byrne's pencils in his classic run on X-Men, but I wasn't into comics in the mid 80's when this Superman reboot occurred.
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 9, 2013 19:32:14 GMT -5
I haven't read it in years but the MAN OF STEEL by John Byrne was a post-CRISIS ON INFINITE EARTHS story which was a mini-series where all the alternate Earths (started from the 1961 story "The Flash of Two Worlds" in FLASH #123) merge or get destroyed. Supergirl and Superdog die so they don't exist and Superboy is relegated to a pocket universe. So Byrne just "Byrne-ized" it with the suit and tie Luthor and sort of Shiar type Kryptonians (with black coifs and elaborate crystal headress). So the last Superman outing SUPERMAN RETURNS is definitely the MAN OF STEEL in scope. This new film maybe a tiny bit but all Byrne stuff has probably been reprocessed and regurgitated to a later form by now in the comics and graphic novels so I'm guessing a later source. The most Superman thing I've ever seen was this episode of BATMAN THE BRAVE AND THE BOLD guest starring Superman. It reminded me of the Superman digests they made in the 1970's that reprinted stuff from earlier Superman comics. Heres the episode on YouTube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=uibGjZm080k
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Post by GRWelsh on Dec 9, 2013 19:52:06 GMT -5
I never saw that before. That was classic Superman and Batman like I remember them... Yet also incorporating a few iconic poses from THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. That was awesome, thanks for the link.
"Superman's turned into a real di-" "Different person. If I hadn't seen it myself, I wouldn't have believed it."
But in that fight... really, Batman is dead at 16:40.
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 9, 2013 20:39:13 GMT -5
Yeah that series run was great the format was the first 5 minute or so was a teamup followed by the full 20 minute teamup. So it was Batman and the entire DC Universe. Too numerous to name but they dug up old storylines and series and did them in a cool way. Plus the Batmobile looks like the Batmobile and Robin has a original Teen Titans flashback in one episode.
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