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Post by GRWelsh on Jul 19, 2013 11:51:24 GMT -5
Anyone see this movie yet? It's getting pretty good reviews.
I like that it has mostly practical effects rather than CGI. I think that's usually the better way to go, when possible.
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Post by geneweigel on Jul 24, 2013 6:30:22 GMT -5
I didn't get a chance to look this up. Its supposed to be a sort of a 1971 prequel to the book THE AMITYVILLE HORROR: A TRUE STORY (1977) and the movie THE AMITYVILLE HORROR (1979) which were1975. About investigators that if you read the book sound familiar Ed and Lorraine Warren. Its by the guy who did INSIDIOUS (2010) which had that pretty creepy scene so I 'd wager it might be spooky.
Look at all these Amityville movies:
The Amityville Horror (1979) Amityville II: The Possession (1982) Amityville 3-D (1983) (made in 3-D, and has also been released as Amityville III: The Demon) Amityville 4: The Evil Escapes (1989) The Amityville Curse (1990) Amityville: It's About Time (1992) Amityville: A New Generation (1993) Amityville Dollhouse (1996) The Amityville Horror (2005 remake) The Amityville Haunting (2011)
The scary thing is that I think I've watched all of them except the 2011 film.
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Post by geneweigel on Jul 24, 2013 6:32:27 GMT -5
Even scarier is I have the 3D glasses from part III somewhere too.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jul 24, 2013 9:19:26 GMT -5
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Post by geneweigel on Jul 24, 2013 10:43:29 GMT -5
I recall AMITYVILLE 3D: THE DEMON had people wondering if the demon was a "phantom stalker" from the FIEND FOLIO. Which was weird because the phantom stalker wasn't even a demon but a fire elemental*. Don't you love how I pass on this mind garbage for folks to collect and add to their own mind garbage? *In this case, the variant "fire stalker" to the invisible stalker, along with other weird FIEND FOLIO "stalkers" e.g. dune stalkers (air/earth?) and spirit trolls (1/2 troll 1/2 inv. stalker) NB "dark stalkers" were name only humanoid leader castes to humanoid "dark creepers".
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Post by geneweigel on Oct 27, 2013 0:42:43 GMT -5
I finally watched this on pay-per-view. Its good lots of jump scares. The R rating seems a little bit much but I think its a warning for kids because they won't sleep for sure!
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Post by geneweigel on Oct 31, 2013 22:22:49 GMT -5
Heh, I just watched a documentary on Amityville. They had the woman depicted in THE CONJURING on there. I was reading some background about Amityville while i was watching and saw mention of an IN SEARCH OF with Leonard Nimoy verifying the priests GET OUT story with an interview and a THAT'S INCREDIBLE that downplayed the house damage as being exaggerated because there was old paint on the purported broken areas by the then current owners of the house. I remember watching those shows fanatically!
The weird part about this thing on it I was just watching was that the skeptics they featured.
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Post by geneweigel on Oct 31, 2013 22:26:10 GMT -5
Oops- anyway, why do these skeptics seem religious? Like they believe in a fantasy that's boring?
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Post by Scott on Oct 31, 2013 22:43:32 GMT -5
I remember the In Search Of episode. I loved that show as a kid. Remember back in the seventies when Amityville first came out, it was like a national phenomenon. My mom took me to the movies to see it. It freaked me out. It freaked my mom out too. My dad was working out of town at the time, so we went to sleep at my grandparents. My mom set me up on the couch, turned the TV on, and went to bed, and some Hammer Dracula flick comes on.
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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 1, 2013 8:02:00 GMT -5
Oops- anyway, why do these skeptics seem religious? Like they believe in a fantasy that's boring? Oddly enough I don't find that to be implausible. One of my favorite things about the movie THE EXORCISM OF EMILY ROSE was that in the court case, the attorney who was trying to prosecute the Catholic priest was a church-going Protestant. The defense attorney was agnostic. The priest was on trial because the girl who was possessed died during while in the priest's care. The religious prosecutor scoffed and mocked at all of the supernatural elements of the defense's story, which on the surface seems inconsistent. But the film-makers wanted to make the point about how people "just aren't that simple." So, yeah, I think you're right -- there are a lot of religious people who "believe in a fantasy that's boring." They might go to church every Sunday and pray before dinner and claim they believe every word of the Bible -- but then if someone claims to have actually seen a ghost or a demon possession or something supernatural, they scoff and roll their eyes and make fun of them. "The age of miracles is past." I used to hear that when I was young and going to church. Old Presbyterian farmers. They're more skeptical than atheists!
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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 1, 2013 8:57:28 GMT -5
Yeah, AMITYVILLE HORROR was a national phenomenon due to the whole "based on a true story" hype. I guess that was their strategy to try to top THE EXORCIST. As a kid, I had no reason to not believe it. But even as a kid, I remember adults I knew making fun of it and rolling their eyes. My Dad thought it was a bunch of made-up crap.
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 1, 2013 9:01:10 GMT -5
I remember the In Search Of episode. I loved that show as a kid. Remember back in the seventies when Amityville first came out, it was like a national phenomenon. My mom took me to the movies to see it. It freaked me out. It freaked my mom out too. My dad was working out of town at the time, so we went to sleep at my grandparents. My mom set me up on the couch, turned the TV on, and went to bed, and some Hammer Dracula flick comes on. The horror for me was that my Dad was addicted to R rated movies and Saturday was visitation day so I seen way too much horror especially crap that was so obscure as to never even make VHS. So when AMITYVILLE came around in 79 it wasn't as bad as some of the pure nightmare shit I seen but the fact that everybody knew it was a true story made it worse. Asking my maniac parents was like: YEAH, ITS TRUE. The Exorcist? OH YEAH! But how? I DON'T KNOW...
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 1, 2013 9:08:39 GMT -5
So, yeah, I think you're right -- there are a lot of religious people who "believe in a fantasy that's boring." They might go to church every Sunday and pray before dinner and claim they believe every word of the Bible -- but then if someone claims to have actually seen a ghost or a demon possession or something supernatural, they scoff and roll their eyes and make fun of them. "The age of miracles is past." I used to hear that when I was young and going to church. Old Presbyterian farmers. They're more skeptical than atheists! Its true. The average atheist is even following some kind of belief system where actively inserting non-excitement is their chief priciple. Its not exclusive to atheists though, I might have told you the "BOY WHO CRIED WOLF" story about my family with the coyotes being dismissed as owls for over a decade? On average there is a tendency to insert boring concepts to avoid stress.
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 1, 2013 9:18:25 GMT -5
Yeah, AMITYVILLE HORROR was a national phenomenon due to the whole "based on a true story" hype. I guess that was their strategy to try to top THE EXORCIST. As a kid, I had no reason to not believe it. But even as a kid, I remember adults I knew making fun of it and rolling their eyes. My Dad thought it was a bunch of made-up crap. We were supposed to go out to the Amityville house because someone said they did but I got so busy that I lost track. A sharp contrast to my view is my friend Taylor. He is overly skeptical of everything and is always downplaying all my ghost hunts. Its reasonable to him because we've both met some fake sensitives who can't get there stories straight but I keep arguing that that is not the rule. Its cause and effect, etc., etc., etc. I'm getting a headache already....
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Post by Scott on Nov 1, 2013 9:22:25 GMT -5
My mom was the horror movie lover when I was a kid. I still remember sitting through Carrie at the theater as a 7 year old. Lots of horror movies at the drive-ins too.
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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 1, 2013 12:06:56 GMT -5
Its true. The average atheist is even following some kind of belief system where actively inserting non-excitement is their chief priciple. Its not exclusive to atheists though, I might have told you the "BOY WHO CRIED WOLF" story about my family with the coyotes being dismissed as owls for over a decade? On average there is a tendency to insert boring concepts to avoid stress. No, I don't remember that story, but I believe it. There is humour in here somewhere. I am imagining a comedy skit where an atheist moves into a house even though people warned him not to because it is haunted. "No, it's okay. Really," the atheist says, "I'll just rationalize all of the odd occurences away as having mundane, natural causes. That's what I do. I can live here!" A door in the middle of the house slams shut. "Hmm. Where did that draft come from?" Voices upstairs. "Must have left the TV on." Atheist goes upstairs and sees the TV isn't on. "A short in the wire must make it go on and off." Spoons levitate. "Never saw a magnetic anomaly quite like that before, but I read they were possible in a popular science magazine." Come to think of it, this is really just the standard Hollywood depiction of the atheist -- the person who takes their skepticism to extremes, even in the face of overwhelming evidence. Maybe that is how a lot of people really see atheists. * I have often said that if my house was haunted I think there is a good chance I wouldn't even realize it. I've had people at my house saying, "What was that sound? No one else is here!" and I shrug, disinterested. "Dunno."
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 1, 2013 21:26:05 GMT -5
That premise reminded me of the Elmer Fudd and Sylvester cartoon with the killer mice where they keep missing Elmer and Sylvester keeps warning him throughout and he keeps getting angry at him for waking him up. Remember that?
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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 2, 2013 8:41:59 GMT -5
Yeah, that's pretty close to what I was thinking, "Scaredy Cat" by Warner Bros. This is the only complete video I could find of it online: www.220.ro/desene-animate/Looney-Tunes-Scaredy-Cat/v9455iAvXk/"I love this quiet old house. It's so quaint, and so quiet." And he can't see all the weird and dangerous shit going on all around him.
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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 4, 2013 8:43:25 GMT -5
In a lecture on the paranormal...
"The Devil's Hour is 3:00 AM, when the wall between our world and the spirit world is at its weakest."
Student raises hand.
"Is that 3:00 AM Eastern Standard Time or 3:00 AM Daylight Savings Time?"
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 4, 2013 9:11:38 GMT -5
That is weird because I was contemplating the DST the other day and I was thinking it was a forced disconnect from the natural flow that makes things that were formally associated with the supernatural seem outdated.
Another example that I previously considered just like this was astrology and how it doesn't make sense anymore. I mostly was on this train of thought when I was doing that planar project which I never finished because I was going to do the normals (worshippers, minions, etc.) associated to make it tangible. If you make up for the Earth's movement then all the weather is no longer associated with the stars as an indicator. There is some line of thinking about this on some astrology corners but its not much. Its mostly associating people with "signs" that are disconnected from what was happening weather wise at the time of their birth.
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