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Post by Scott on Jul 19, 2012 12:56:46 GMT -5
So elves are 90% resistant to charm spells. Do you consider that specific to the charm person spell, or any spell of the charm type? For example, I think hold person is actually a charm-type spell. Would the elves resistance come into play?
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Post by GRWelsh on Jul 20, 2012 19:04:10 GMT -5
A "Sage Advice" article in Dragon Magazine #60 answers this question, and basically says the charm resistance applies to all spells with charm in the name (charm person, charm person or mammal, charm monster and mass charm), as well as magic items that have charm-equivalent effects (potion of human control, philter of love, ring of human influence, rod of beguiling, staff of command, eyes of charming, and any magic sword with the extraordinary power of charm person), and bardic songs.
I think it would also be reasonable to have the resistance apply to spells like friends, domination, suggestion, hypnotism and fire charm, and the charming ability that monsters like vampires and harpies have.
But I would not have it apply to spells like hold person and fear, even though they are in the Enchantment/Charm school. I would only have it apply to spells or magic effects that make the elf more predisposed towards falling under the control or influence of another. In my opinion, making elves resistant to the entire Enchantment/Charm school would be beyond the scope of what is described.
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Post by Scott on Jul 20, 2012 20:41:05 GMT -5
Yeah, being resistant to hold would be a big advantage.
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Post by amalric on Aug 6, 2012 8:34:54 GMT -5
Couldn't put it any better than what Grashyewl did!
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Post by grodog on Aug 6, 2012 22:18:00 GMT -5
FWIW, I would not apply the charm resistance to a vampire's charm or other monster charms (dryads, nymphs, etc.) since the DMG specifically calls monster charms out as much stronger than standard charms available to PCs via spells. Similarly, I'd allow a ring of human influence or rod of beguiling to work as well, since they're much more powerful than standard charm spells as well. The rest of the related charm-like powers (which I would drive from the spell immunities for 19+ Wisdom scores) could fall into the mix, but I think that broadens the powers of the specific spell resistances too far.
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