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Post by amalric on Jan 6, 2012 18:14:00 GMT -5
Just saw a trailer for this yesterday, thought it looked pretty good.
Thoughts? Haven't read any previews.
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Post by Scott on Jan 6, 2012 19:37:57 GMT -5
There are two trailers. Both look pretty good. It is Disney though, so you may lose some of the ERB pulp vibe.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jan 9, 2012 19:46:24 GMT -5
I guess you haven't seen the trailer with the "Green Martians Musical Sequence" yet?
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Post by Scott on Jan 10, 2012 9:49:33 GMT -5
I can't recall. I vaguely remember when the first trailer was released there was some negative reaction, but I don't mind either of the two that I've watched recently.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 21, 2012 7:50:19 GMT -5
Alright, so this wasn't such a good idea after all methinks, it seemed like a bad rpg at points. This seems to have a BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA effect (like I mentioned in the THE HOBBIT thread) resonating thoughout where its scene by scene but they've added their own storyline to those scenes. Right? In the Coppola Dracula's case it was that Dracula was a romantic guy and Mina had an unmentioned secret diary and in this case that there is an interplanetary conspiracy of dopplegangers with some kind of plot device blue energy to make it look like AVATAR.
Honestly? I wished for a Frazzeta-esque style on the tharks. These reminded me of the bug people from the PLANET HULK comics from a few years back. The look from old comics from when I was a kid were better too. In the various companies that did Burrough's worlds.
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Post by Scott on Aug 21, 2012 9:16:34 GMT -5
Well, the story does not follow any book faithfully. It's more a mix and match from the first two or three of the series. The problems you mention were just what I was afraid of when I found out Disney was doing it, The Barsoom books are a real gore fest.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 21, 2012 10:13:20 GMT -5
Its heartbreaking that so much technology went into it when they realized the creatures into life but ultimately didn't seem right. The 1980's DUNE seemed more believably "there" than this. You know what I mean? Like you were believing Arrakis was an actual place without too much thought? This Mars feels too out in the open filmed on a Star Trek gorn/old western set with added cgi.
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Post by Scott on Aug 21, 2012 10:26:35 GMT -5
The Phantom Menace and the Fellowship of the Ring were released within a few years of each other. Regardless of your opinion of the faithfulness of the adaptation of FotR, it looked like a real, lived in world. Everything in Phantom looked bright, shiney, and new. John Carter also suffered from being too bright, shiney, and new, but even worse since part of the whole Barsoom vibe is the dying world aspect.
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Post by Scott on Aug 21, 2012 10:35:52 GMT -5
Another problem with John Carter, and I've mentioned this before, the movie just bounced all over the place. The picked too many locations from the first couple books to try to cover, and they raced around from place to place so fast that everything suffered. The characters were thin, the plot was thin and rushed, the locations were glossed over. It wasn't so bad for me since I'm familiar with the books, but I could see how the movie could get a bad review from somebody who wasn't
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 21, 2012 11:06:01 GMT -5
Were those shapechangers in the book?
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Post by Scott on Aug 21, 2012 13:03:22 GMT -5
Not that I remember.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 21, 2012 13:31:37 GMT -5
I thought so... I remember the energy field discussion but not in the way it was presented in the film. Plus the ending of POM was the same as TOTAL RECALL, right?
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Post by Scott on Aug 21, 2012 13:57:56 GMT -5
Now that you mention it, yes, it was very similar.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 21, 2012 15:36:18 GMT -5
I've read so many 1960's-1970's Burroughs' character comics that I get the actual stories mixed up.
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Post by amalric on Mar 22, 2013 13:40:41 GMT -5
Never did get to see this at the cinema, worse luck, but caught it on tv last weekend - I absolutely loved it. I have a new PoM anthology that I bought last year but haven't read it yet (there's a pile of unread books to get through!), so didn't have a preconceived idea of what it might look like. So I thought it looked brilliant, and was captivated from the beginning.
Now I'll just have to lament the fact that sequels are out of the question.
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