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Post by geneweigel on Aug 3, 2021 14:33:10 GMT -5
I was wondering is the 1977 Basic even possible to be printed or is it a violation? Just wondering if anyone could tell me offhand, it just seems like last time that I had dragged this out for the kids they were putting drinks on it.
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Post by Scott on Aug 3, 2021 15:21:40 GMT -5
I don't know if I've ever seen Holmes for legit sale. I bought the Moldvay/Cook (the first books I owned) set on Drive Through RPG, but didn't see Holmes.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 3, 2021 19:01:38 GMT -5
Is it possible to print somewhere else?
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 3, 2021 19:02:13 GMT -5
I mean the Moldvay
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Post by Scott on Aug 3, 2021 20:07:55 GMT -5
Right now I don't think thee is any old D&D available for PoD.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 3, 2021 21:36:16 GMT -5
I'm making assumptions on new copies of Chainmails they were using in 2007 at the convention in Lake Geneva. Maybe they were printed privately by hand.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 4, 2021 6:41:42 GMT -5
Is there a new basic book that is printed that isn't off base?
I see one called Blueholme that says it emulates but not sure what that means. Is it a different game?
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Post by Scott on Aug 4, 2021 6:46:02 GMT -5
It's a fan re-write of the Holmes book. I haven't read it.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 4, 2021 9:03:32 GMT -5
Printing a PDF for personal use, like for gaming in your own home, is allowed and covered under fair use. You would only get into trouble if you were printing and distributing to others for free or for sale.
Blueholme is retroclone of the Basic D&D set edited by J. Eric Holmes (1977). It is very similar to the original.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 4, 2021 9:16:24 GMT -5
Thanks. I just wanted to not fuck up the last copy that I have. Pick pocketing street players! I lost so many I don't even know what happened. The boxes are all long gone on everything. (Still wish that I saved all the Grenadier boxes. Which I had every set set except the alternate mythical box with the cyclops which my friend had.).
Have you read through the Blueholme book for differences?
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 4, 2021 9:58:59 GMT -5
I haven't scoured the retroclones to determine all of the differences, but from what I've read online they are very similar. The main differences come from when a retroclone expands beyond the scope of the original. So Blueholme Prentice is very similar to the original, but Blueholme Journeymanne allows progression up to 20th level and so adds a lot beyond the original. I don't use the retroclones since I still have the originals. I don't even play the originals anymore, because although they have nostalgia value they don't really work as seamless introductions to 1st edition AD&D. There are enough rules differences to make the transition clunky: Different hit dice, clerics not getting spells at 1st level, race as class, XP charts, etc. What I would really like would be an introductory version for AD&D (levels 1-4) easy enough for kids and newcomers to grasp, yet consistent with AD&D in all respects (humans, elves, dwarves, halflings and four core classes). Maybe it is out there and I just haven't found it!
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