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Post by Scott on Nov 22, 2017 22:44:10 GMT -5
Another good NetFlix series. Real good. About the FBI agents that started the study of serial killers. Based on the book by the agent that started it. Anybody else watching?
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Post by GRWelsh on Nov 23, 2017 9:54:27 GMT -5
Not yet, but it's in my queue. That reminds me of the TV show "Hannibal" from a few years back which had a lot of focus on the Will Graham character, the gifted FBI profiler of serial killers. That show was well done and better than any of the movie versions -- other than "Silence of the Lambs" -- but it was much more about style than anything close to realism, and felt padded out as they tried to include nearly everything from the first three books.
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Post by Scott on Nov 23, 2017 10:18:55 GMT -5
The writing and acting is excellent. The Ed Kemper scenes are great, and I think the dialogue is pretty close to the actual interviews.
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Post by foster1941 on Nov 30, 2017 17:35:49 GMT -5
My wife and I watched this a month or so back and both loved it - it starts out strong and gets better and better as it goes along. Have you made it to the end yet?
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Post by Scott on Nov 30, 2017 17:50:46 GMT -5
Yeah, I finished it, I thought it was great. They really did a good job with balancing the different elements of story telling so my interest stayed high throughout.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jan 2, 2018 10:40:37 GMT -5
I started watching this. Good recommendation. I like how they depict law enforcement the 70's as still all about dominance and subdual, with very little effort at understanding, and how that began to change. I also liked the Ed Kemper interview scenes. There is a fascinating video on YouTube that compares the scenes to the actual interviews: www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDYBmNYc8IAThe series feels like a reset button after all the extravagances of 'serial killer fiction' we've seen in the past few decades; this scales it back to the much more realistic level. I was a huge fan of the Thomas Harris novels back in the 1980's (RED DRAGON, SILENCE OF THE LAMBS), and read them before their movie versions came out. But then came all the later stuff, and that is a perfect example of something starting out hewing close to the source material but then becoming increasingly more stylized and fantastic until it is no longer even remotely believable. |
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 5, 2018 10:32:46 GMT -5
Watched about 4. Pretty good so far.
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 6, 2018 1:29:43 GMT -5
Just finished pretty good at getting the time periods and the feel of the era. Characters are likable. The killers I've seen their stories so many times on different things but this was interesting.
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Post by GRWelsh on Sept 2, 2019 10:19:51 GMT -5
I finished season 2 and the quality is still high. I like the way they stay close to the facts and historical events, and weave the characters through that with their own conflicts. This is some of the best writing I've seen on TV for a while. They depict law enforcement nearly bungling certain cases, because they're only human and this was the dawn of behavior sciences getting involved in the profiling. Some victories are bittersweet.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 2, 2019 19:34:51 GMT -5
I'm waiting until everyone in the fam is present... Again. The whole Marvel thing on Netflix came and went waiting around for me to get everyone assembled now no one wants to finish watching it with me.
I said fuck it and watched the entire ABC MURDERS 3 part miniseries with John Malkovich as aging Poirot on Amazon yesterday by myself. Very crisp in UHD.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 3, 2019 16:02:02 GMT -5
I caught 2 episodes last night.
That was definitely a flashback as the Son of Sam resonates highly with me. I was the only child of the divorce who got stuck visiting my schizo father and that Summer Mr Weigel had a habit of gallavanting around the 5 boroughs so the "44 caliber killer" as he was called initially, spread panic which made everyone stay indoors and I was walking around with dad on empty streets and in busses and trains. Seeing horrific headlines that I vaguely recall sounding like "Shooting in Windows" and "Anyone is a Target". And Weigel could care fucking less he was walking around with a child.
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Post by GRWelsh on Sept 3, 2019 17:38:37 GMT -5
Sounds like maybe you should have your own miniseries!
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 4, 2019 6:10:07 GMT -5
Sounds like maybe you should have your own miniseries! Heh, I would find it hard to cast my parents they were very likable people to 99% of people who knew them. I would hate to have random people approach me with the same crap I hear but instead about their fictional counterparts.  I watched 3 more this show is well put together. We've watched so many murder doc shows and movies that the cases are all familiar. |
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Post by GRWelsh on Sept 4, 2019 10:49:18 GMT -5
Yeah, that's what I hear from people into true crime. My cousin Julie said the same thing, she knows all about these killers on the show, there is nothing new in that regard. I only had vague knowledge about most of them, so it is all enjoyable to me. From what I can tell, the actors portraying them are physically similar and make some attempts to get their speech patterns down pretty accurately. The guy playing Manson was spot on. What really engages me in the show is the evolution of law enforcement and the internal tensions they had to go through. Not everyone was on board right away for using new methods -- even when there was evidence they worked. That has to be a tough job. You're expected to protect everybody but get blamed for everything that goes wrong, and you're around depressing shit all of the time: the worst of the worst among humanity.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 4, 2019 11:44:03 GMT -5
You're expected to protect everybody but get blamed for everything that goes wrong, and you're around depressing shit all of the time: the worst of the worst among humanity. Sounds like my recent debacle on Facebook with my siblings... |
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