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Post by geneweigel on Jan 19, 2017 13:22:11 GMT -5
Yeah, I had five big rounds of rpg in the paper trash (recycling started in NYC in the 90's)
1). 1997: First was everything with a TSR world logo (Planescape, Ravenloft, Forgotten Realms, Spelljammer) with exception of anything Greyhawk and monster books.
2) 1998: Everything 2E Greyhawk
3) 2003: Everything 3E but kept D20 by other companies
4) 2006: Rifts and anything Palladium. The stack was almost as tall as me
5) 2010: All 2E monster books (2E Compendium)
The one Gygax era thing that irks me now is Basic-Expert-Companion-Master-Immortals (BECMI) modules. I think that I'm just going to get them out of the main area so I don't have to look at them.
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foster1941
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Post by foster1941 on Jan 19, 2017 13:50:26 GMT -5
I stopped buying D&D stuff around 1990-91 (except for Dragon magazine, which I had a subscription to that ran through ~1994, even though I'd stopped reading it years earlier). All that stuff sat on shelves in my mom's basement through the 90s & 00s. When I was getting back into D&D c. 2003-04 I picked up some stuff I'd missed the first time around on ebay - stuff like the Rules Cyclopedia and the UK-series modules - as well as some d20 stuff that I was told was good, but I wasn't impressed with much of it, so it sat in boxes in my apartment closet. Around 2010 my mom sold my childhood home and several boxfulls of D&D/rpg stuff showed up at my apartment via parcel post. Almost all of it I turned around and sold to Noble Knight Games for a couple thousand $. I kept 3-4 milkcrates worth of stuff - my "play copies" of the core 1E Gygax-era "canon," some items with sentimental value, and a few other tidbits. I've also still got pdfs (most of which are really bad quality) of a lot of stuff that I no longer have in hardcopy.
The only things I sort of regret letting go are the early-printing OD&D set and the Castle Zagyg Upper Works set, because both of those command very hefty prices nowadays, but OTOH if I hadn't included those I'm sure I would have gotten a lot less for all the other stuff (they admitted to me at the time that a lot of my stuff was effectively worthless but that they were willing to accept it as a package-deal with my good stuff). To everything else - good riddance!
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Post by GRWelsh on Jan 19, 2017 14:41:17 GMT -5
Going back to the "City of Brass," I missed that. Without getting into all the messy details of circa 2003-2007, does anyone know if Rob's version of the "City of Brass" was inspired by the classic Dave Sutherland painting used for the cover of the 1st edition DMG, or was Dave's painting inspired by an adventure -- in which the City of Brass figured as a locale -- run by Rob or someone else in EGG's circle from the early days?
"Arabian Nights" was such a huge influence on many fantasists, especially from the late 1800's into the 20th century, from Poe, Clark Ashton Smith, Lovecraft, Richard Corben, EGG, and many others -- and of course its imprint is in D&D -- but I've never had a good grasp of the source material. It seems like I'm always exposed to it in second hand ways... (Harryhausen, Disney, comic books, etc.).
P. S. There is a free Kindle version of "Arabian Nights" on Amazon.com... I guess there is no reason not to read it!
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 19, 2017 15:25:09 GMT -5
Not all editions of "One Thousand And One Arabian Nights" contains the "City of Brass" tale. They mention it here and there in other "nights" but not the specific tale. Just thought I'd mention it.
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Post by foster1941 on Jan 19, 2017 16:06:08 GMT -5
AFAICT there's no connection between Rob's COB stuff and the Sutherland painting except that they both draw on the same (pre-existing) subject matter. But one doesn't seem to have inspired the other, in either direction.
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 19, 2017 17:46:28 GMT -5
Both are allusions to the original legend rather than the Arabian version so all three:
1) Arabian Nights story "CITY OF BRASS"
2) Sutherland's DMG cover
3) Rob's "To the City of Brass"
Are drawn from the idea of a distant lost city that has something to do with "balrogs" (Efreet) and each in its turn does its own take.
My version of Brass (from one game session) was inspired from the Sutherland drawing.
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Post by grodog on Jan 19, 2017 21:36:24 GMT -5
I thought that Rob mentioned running a solo campaign for DCSIII, and that he had visited the City of Brass. That ring any bells to anyone else?
Allan.
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 19, 2017 23:13:20 GMT -5
I thought Sutherland was up there with Arneson in the Twin Cities somewhere. I don't even know the dynamics of the Greater Chicago interstate feel that was going on there when I went to Wisconsin. Some guy in McDonalds in Lake Geneva 2007 saying he just came from Nebraska that morning and he seemed pretty fresh to me. I knew it was close but I didn't realize that travel was easy.
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