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Post by Scott on Sept 3, 2016 0:15:52 GMT -5
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Post by grodog on Sept 3, 2016 0:17:33 GMT -5
Definitely looking forward to this set! Allan.
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Post by Scott on Sept 3, 2016 0:38:22 GMT -5
Definitely.
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Post by foster1941 on Sept 3, 2016 1:08:50 GMT -5
I wish we knew how much it was going to cost. I have an uncomfortable suspicion Rob's going to try and charge, like, $100+ for it, which is way out of my range.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 3, 2016 8:48:44 GMT -5
Does anyone have list of his publications?
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 3, 2016 10:02:30 GMT -5
Geez I wrote that on the fly.
Last thing that I got from Rob was the TOWER OF BLOOD. After that I don't recall anything.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 3, 2016 10:13:45 GMT -5
The Original Living Room (2008) The Original Bottle City (2008) El Raja Key’s Arcane Treasury with Eric N. Shook (2009) Daemonic & Arcane (2009) The Stalk (2009) Dungeon Set #1 - Levels 1-6 with Ramsey Dow (2009) Dungeon Set #2 - Levels 7-12 with Ramsey Dow (2009) Black Festival (fiction novella, 2010
Is this everyting after TOWER OF BLOOD (2007)?
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Post by Scott on Sept 3, 2016 10:19:08 GMT -5
Not sure. I haven't really followed that closely.
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Post by foster1941 on Sept 3, 2016 12:22:19 GMT -5
That looks complete to me. The Original Bottle City is totally essential. Everything else can be safely ignored.
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Post by Scott on Sept 3, 2016 13:08:56 GMT -5
I'm very interested in seeing what Kalibruhn material is included. I've been wanting to see more of his world for years.
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Post by grodog on Sept 3, 2016 23:14:52 GMT -5
Does anyone have list of his publications? Already-published material won't be included in the DVD collection, I don't think, Gene: it's manuscripts, campaign materials, maps, keys, etc., rather than published works (although I'm there will be plenty of references to other published and unpublished works throughout the DVD contents).
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Post by foster1941 on Sept 4, 2016 0:39:38 GMT -5
The draft back cover Rob posted on his blog already plugs half a dozen other products, including a couple things we've already seen (Ice Grave and To The City of Brass), something that's only available with the Deluxe version of the CD (meaning only for collectors, not for players), and 2 or 3 "new" titles that presumably haven't been completed yet (and, let's be honest, almost certainly never will be).
Rob also addresses the pricing issue by reminding us that the works included in the CD represent thousands of hours of labor over 40 years. In other words, it looks like my suspicion about the price-level is likely to be proven true. Oh well. Hopefully the collectors will scoop up enough copies that he won't miss the money he doesn't get from me...
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Post by GRWelsh on Sept 4, 2016 8:55:20 GMT -5
Rob said there are going to be four tiers of purchase levels.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 4, 2016 10:46:42 GMT -5
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Post by grodog on Sept 4, 2016 11:16:28 GMT -5
The draft back cover Rob posted on his blog already plugs half a dozen other products, including a couple things we've already seen (Ice Grave and To The City of Brass), While Ice Grave was published in Troll Magazine (IIRC), its sequel wasn't. Journey to the City of Brass is the old tourney that Rob's made available publicly, as at www.acaeum.com/library/citybrass.html. It's sequel Into the City of Brass is definitely new material (I've not seen that one, IIRC), and the City of Brass full manuscript hasn't been seen by any but a few collectors who bought printed copies of the full 89K word piece in some of Stormberg's auctions. That's new, too, since most of what had been written for the Kenzer version was modified by Jeff Knight the summer that Rob's leg was smashed so badly, but I'm not sure if that's included in the collection (I haven't seen the final TOC). something that's only available with the Deluxe version of the CD (meaning only for collectors, not for players), and 2 or 3 "new" titles that presumably haven't been completed yet (and, let's be honest, almost certainly never will be). The other titles mentioned in the back blurb text are ones that definitely already exist in ms. form, and I believe were areas that were played in during the Kalibruhn and Greyhawk campaigns, so if the Sunken City was a fairly quick writing process (which based on everything Rob and Paul have told me, it was), I'm hopeful that these will appear in a similarly-quick pace. I don't know the pricing structure, and perhaps they're waiting for final costs from the final proofs before setting it, but I'm pretty sure that Rob has said that Sunken City will also be available for separate purchase, in addition to buying it with the top-tier version of the collection.
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Post by grodog on Sept 4, 2016 12:33:57 GMT -5
Rob mentioned on G+ that:
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Post by foster1941 on Sept 4, 2016 13:46:35 GMT -5
I look forward to this release, and hope one of the versions is priced within my budget.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 4, 2016 14:09:48 GMT -5
In regards to work that I did with Rob, I had never submitted my magical locales so whatever he already had done in chapter one was all his. I had finished all the chapters from a skeletal layout but Rob never saw it because he was too busy beating up some guy who tried to mug his landlady. Just kidding!
Rob has a copy of my planar monster material so thats the only thing that I've been worried about with him.
Only a few of them are converted into generic because I couldn't get a straight answer from him about format. I've reapproached my material after playtesting several times over the years and material for every monster but the new stuff is not illustrated. Another thing is they became less generic.
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Post by GRWelsh on Sept 4, 2016 18:48:05 GMT -5
What is "El Raja Key" anyway? I know Rob's initials are RJK, and this seems to be the obvious explanation of where it "comes from." But, I mean in the context of the fictional world -- what is it? A place? A person? Or what?
I know there's a Castle El Raja Key, but sometimes I see the term used in the possessive tense (El Raja Key's Tome of Magical Places), so it makes me wonder... Could be a person? The maker or lord of the castle?
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 4, 2016 20:52:54 GMT -5
Zagyg and El Raja Key are similar in regards the dungeons created by a wizard but thats where the resemblance ends. I think it was going to be explained but thats all that I heard.
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