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Post by Scott on Jan 22, 2014 20:45:17 GMT -5
I finally started reading this series. You can see that they were a huge influence on EGG: the flavor, the style, the roots of the Gygaxian lingo. I'm really enjoying them.
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 23, 2014 14:17:43 GMT -5
Yeah they're always fun to read especially if you get into a fantasy slump. They really are very re-readable if you let them go a few years you can jump right back in and read 20 stories in a row. Fritz has an enthusiasm for the details which reflects in D&D in a big way. I even like his horror stories. But getting back to D&D the enthusiasm for Leiber was in Kuntz for sure and Gary was even more exhuberant about him. He had a real fondness in his voice for his company. Thats when I asked him if he played the original LANKHMAR game and he was like, "Uh... there was no original Lankhmar game." I was floored. Honestly? I was like, "WHAT THE FUCK!?!" I had told that bogus story for years. I was like "But I thought he co-designed the boardgame?" And then he went on that Fritz played a game of letters but there was no wargame or stats. It was surreal to say the least but it put an end to that shit where I used to say "YOU KNOW FRITZ LEIBER PLAYED A GAME WITH HARRY FISCHER LONG BEFORE D&D?" before a game session with new people. Of course pronouncing it "LEEBER" as well instead of "LYBER" as I was corrected on.
The weird thing is I'm the only person that I know off the web who has read all the Mouser and Fafhrd tales.
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 23, 2014 14:23:30 GMT -5
The weird thing about that pronunciation is that everyone pronounces "Weigel" as "Weegel" and it irks me to hear it as it reminds me of my Dad and his Irish kooky friends. And here I am doing the same thing to somebody else's name!
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Post by GRWelsh on Jan 24, 2014 21:14:15 GMT -5
I've read the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser stories. They're definitely worth reading. The latest ones get kind of surreal, which wasn't to my liking. I preferred the earlier stories, from the 60's and early 70's. I feel like they are essential reading for anyone who really wants to grasp the essence of Gygax D&D -- perhaps these stories, and Edgar Rice Burroughs' "Barsoom" stories, more than any others.
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Post by geneweigel on Jan 24, 2014 23:33:52 GMT -5
I've read the Fafhrd and Gray Mouser stories. They're definitely worth reading. The latest ones get kind of surreal, which wasn't to my liking. I preferred the earlier stories, from the 60's and early 70's. I feel like they are essential reading for anyone who really wants to grasp the essence of Gygax D&D -- perhaps these stories, and Edgar Rice Burroughs' "Barsoom" stories, more than any others. Thats probably true but I'd take all the inspirational list from the DMG and not overlook those 1940's and 1950's comics either! Leiber has that feel that mirrors approaching the adventure of the game as a character for sure but it like all others lack the volume of the world of monsters that comes with D&D.
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Post by amalric on Apr 14, 2014 16:05:55 GMT -5
I read the F&GM Swords books about 20 years ago, loved them. I'll have to get round to reading them again - them, and the Corum books, the Elric books, the Conan books...
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