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Post by Scott on Nov 14, 2004 23:05:04 GMT -5
Would you allow a cleric of Heironeous to use a battle axe? Scott
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Post by JRMapes on Nov 15, 2004 1:05:37 GMT -5
Single classed Human Cleric... nope wouldnt allow it. Dual classed Human Cleric/Fightertype... yup. One of those freaky multi-classed demi-human types ... yeah, but first someone has to play one of those freaky multi-class types in my game. Jerry
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Post by Scott on Nov 15, 2004 8:11:06 GMT -5
I think it should be yes to all, or no to all. What the god would allow should override the generic class description, or class combination. If the single class human cleric couldn't do it, then the dual class human shouldn't be able to since the cleric weapon restrictions would still apply. It is stated that multi-class demi-human cleric/fighters can use bladed weapons, but again I think that a particular god's restrictions should supercede the generic description. Also, I see Heironeous as primarily a human deity. Scott
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Post by JRMapes on Nov 15, 2004 12:36:17 GMT -5
The way i see it, which is sometimes quite cockeyed, is that with dual classed or multiclassed, the PC doesnt rank as high as a true cleric of the deity (i.e. singl classed). They, to me, seem to be splitting thier attention and by doing so are, if you will, less devout, therfore lessor restrictions. Its not a perfect answer, but thats how I see it based in my bias toward multiclasses (in the general sense).
Now dual classed doesnt exactly fit that explanation perfectly but I could see wiggle room IF the PC was a Cleric first then became a fighter... then by giving up the robes... so to speak has less restictions. If it was the other way around; fighter first then cleric then I would probably have to say no to the Axe as well.
Of course, it may all be over thinking the situations. A simple "no" would eliminate all the qualifiers and the trying to determine how to handle the rules on this that pose a minor conflict of interest.
Isnt there a couple deities that say thier clerics can use "X" weapons that are not on the clerics allowed list? I will have to thumb back thru the material... or am i thinking 2E? If this is the case then I would probably go in the end with a resounding NO down the line for those deities that dont specify.
Jerry
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Post by geneweigel on Nov 23, 2004 22:29:19 GMT -5
I just accidently stumbled on this article from Dragon #92 (1984): Clerics live by other rules Giving and taking away can be okay by E. Gary Gygax and it gives an example of "in game" modifications to the cleric class by the whims of their gods.
The example is a certain sect of Ehlonna 's druids and clerics and how their class functions and spells have been restricted and been given other boons to make up for their new lack. He even divides up the sect by giving long swords to those true to the faith.
Weird, I totally glossed over this article back in the day.
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Post by tzelios on Jun 6, 2005 5:46:03 GMT -5
I would agree with you guys that it is appropriate to allow Heironeous clerics to use battle-axe,
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