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Post by davegibsongreyhawkdm on Dec 7, 2017 18:23:12 GMT -5
Is there more detail regarding the appearance and appearance differences for Nupperibo versus Lemure devils? The Lemure are described as 'vaguely human blobs' and have a picture displayed in MMI, what coloration would they be body versus eyes?
Since the Nupperibo 'are blind, deaf, and unable to speak', does that mean their appearance is as a Lemure with unformed eyes, ears, and maw? Are they otherwise the same in appearance?
Why is the move rate of a Nupperibo {6"} twice the rate of a Lemure {3"} - is it because Lemures are more bloated?
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 7, 2017 19:08:25 GMT -5
Theyre traditional monsters so its just straight up. Look up a picture of them.
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Post by foster1941 on Dec 7, 2017 20:41:09 GMT -5
Going from real world mythology, nupperibo should look like ordinary people with no faces (which is presumably why they are blind, deaf, and can't speak), while lemures don't have a fixed form, except that they're always "grotesque and terrifying" (and blob-like per the MM1). Nupperibo have a faster move rate because they walk normally (but are slower than normal humans because they don't know where they're going); lemures are slow because presumably they don't have fully-formed legs and move by oozing and shuffling along rather than actual walking.
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 8, 2017 14:16:34 GMT -5
Here are the two types of traditional "Nupperibo": en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noppera-bōen.wikipedia.org/wiki/NuppeppōYou'll find all three terms are sometimes interchangeable in different contexts but thats just par for the course in folklore. Sometimes a troll isn't really a troll at all. It can be a beautiful lady, for instance... WHUH? BUT I CHOPPED AND BURNED 'EM ALL, MAN...  |
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 8, 2017 14:19:37 GMT -5
The links were broke automatically for some reason but I fixed
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Post by foster1941 on Dec 8, 2017 14:31:15 GMT -5
Interesting. I wasn't familiar with the creature from the second link. That seems somewhat similar in appearance to AD&D lemures and might help make that connection. In the Nine Hells there are two main types of tormented spirits - those without faces (nupperibo) and those who are flabby and smelly blobs of flesh (lemures) - and the uninitiated use both terms interchangeably to refer to either type  |
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 8, 2017 15:01:14 GMT -5
Here is a reference that I was using for a long time:  I can't find the other book where it has one that looks like a baby with slight features. |
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 8, 2017 15:04:28 GMT -5
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Post by geneweigel on Dec 8, 2017 15:05:26 GMT -5
The book has almost zero info so its a little frustrating as to what is from what source. I would not recommend it.
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Post by GRWelsh on Dec 8, 2017 17:22:01 GMT -5
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