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Post by geneweigel on Aug 17, 2017 12:19:24 GMT -5
Those Diablo supplements for Third Edition were terrible. I wish they had it all organized with the developer because they would have made juicy supplements.
If I was going to convert a video game to D&D I'd probably start with the computer classics though. Couldn't put it on a blog though so what would be the point?
Greyhawk-wise what would represent monster presence? The flat out wandering encounters of the 3 book set?
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 17, 2017 12:37:24 GMT -5
Greyhawk-wise what would represent monster presence? The flat out wandering encounters of the 3 book set? Sorry, I got distracted. I meant what to expect in Castle Greyhawk as far as monster areas interpreted through 3 book monster encounter volumes.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 18, 2017 10:45:27 GMT -5
What 3 book set are you referring to?
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 18, 2017 13:30:54 GMT -5
The original D&D.
I was doing it in my head as I was walking earlier.
If its "1" by level (except with groups like orcs) then that says that the D&D level encounters have no lairs except exceptional ones on the first level. So everything "level one" is "laired" on the 2nd level of a dungeon complex.
So if Castle Greyhawk, as the "ur-dungeon", follows that formula then there must be a pattern:
"lower numbers" are drifters into a weaker zone and "higher numbers" are drifters into a stronger zone. So while it might automatically be assumed that the larger percentage chance of the rolls are the location of the lair. Its also the number per level.
"Skeletons" a MONSTER LEVEL one monster does not group together like orcs so its found randomly on DUNGEON LEVEL one and DUNGEON LEVEL two. While it has a 33% chance of appearing on DUNGEON LEVEL ONE because it is not a "monster that groups" thee is only going to be a single skeleton. However on DUNGEON LEVEL TWO there will be two skeletons with a 16% chance. So where would you gather that these skeletons originate from?
See what I mean? The skeleton might be a bad example but the others (kobolds, goblins, orcs, giant rats, centipedes and bandits) might group except perhaps "spiders"
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Post by grodog on Aug 18, 2017 13:58:41 GMT -5
Am I correct in thinking Level 9, The Endless Rooms has two side levels, The Grand Mausoleum and the Vaults? But the Vaults can't be accessed from the Endless Rooms, just the Warrens above? FWIW, I interpret these levels to line up this way (and I think I'll need to update my blog post, since I don't think I've got my logic straight there; thanks for pointing this out, Scott!): - Lower Crypts: connects directly to Upper Crypts above it and The Warrens below it - Lairs: at the same depth but does not connect to Lower Crypts - Labyrinth: connects directly to The Endless Rooms and The Warrens - The Warrens: connects directly to Labyrinth and Lower Crypts (above) and The Vaults (below) - The Endless Rooms: connects directly to The Grand Mausoleum, and is presumably at the same depth as The Vaults but doesn't connect to it Key to this seems to be the use of sub-level vs. side-level terminology. I don't think that they mean the same thing, and IIRC Rob has told me in the past that side-levels were connected to main levels via long corridors off the edges of levels, etc., but I'll need to go back to validate that. That's cool, thanks for the info, Gene! Allan.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 18, 2017 14:18:07 GMT -5
That's cool, thanks for the info, Gene!
Allan.[/quote]
I wish there was more to add but that was a short aside. I was trying to get through to him that D&D was not his D&D anymore on a style basis not just superficial rule conversions.
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Post by grodog on Aug 18, 2017 16:47:46 GMT -5
- Lower Crypts: connects directly to Upper Crypts above it and The Warrens below it - Lairs: at the same depth but does not connect to Lower Crypts - Labyrinth: connects directly to The Endless Rooms and The Warrens - The Warrens: connects directly to Labyrinth and Lower Crypts (above) and The Vaults (below) - The Endless Rooms: connects directly to The Grand Mausoleum, and is presumably at the same depth as The Vaults but doesn't connect to it Revised in my blog as: 7. The Lairs a. The Lower Crypts (side-level; accessible only from The Upper Crypts above, and The Warrens below) 8. The Labyrinth a. The Warrens (side-level; accessible from the Labyrinth, while The Warrens also accesses The Lower Crypts above and The Vaults below) 9. The Endless Rooms a. The Grand Mausoleum (side-level; no access to The Vaults) b. The Vaults (side-/sub-level?; no access to The Endless Rooms or The Grand Mausoleum) Allan.
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Post by Scott on Sept 7, 2017 20:59:50 GMT -5
EGG did tell me the Prison of the Nine would be included. Not reset, more like this is the place, you can reset it if you want. In the original campaign it was on level 4, or a sub level of.
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Post by Scott on Sept 8, 2017 12:58:06 GMT -5
I was talking to Ernie about the dungeon recently. He's still so old school. Rather than say 8th level fighter, or whatever, he uses level titles when he's talking about PCs/ NPCs. When he was telling me all the Erac/Erac's Cousin it was, When Erac was a Warlock, etc. Recently when talking about the NPCs that ran the Arena of Death he referred to them as a wizard, a high priest, and a superhero.
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Post by GRWelsh on Sept 8, 2017 15:52:28 GMT -5
I've always liked the level titles, as there is a certain charm to them. But some of them don't always seem right or appropriate, such as the way clerics have bishops and lamas as different rungs on the same ladder... Unless, at 7th level, your cleric decides to leave a medieval fantasy England to go study with monks in medieval fantasy Tibet for a while...
For years, I thought the EHP'SS was an alien title EGG made for Eclavdra... I was a bit disappointed when I realized it was just the commonly used abbreviation for "Evil High Priest" from the old days, made feminine with the SS at the end.
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Post by geneweigel on Sept 9, 2017 16:57:41 GMT -5
There has been on and off with level titles because as always it depends on the players. But I wish it was more universal. Lama is equated with the divorce of the monk so maybe I will string together a new list for the blog
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