I finally finished Daredevil Season 1. It was great. It had a slow burn which felt like an arc over several comic book issues, and that made the final episode very satisfying. Not revealing the Daredevil costume until the final episode was an inspired choice. So was giving Fisk his own arc by showing him meet and fall in love with Vanessa, instead of having him already married as in the comics... Yeah, that served to humanize him and make him more layered. I'd rank him as possibly the best Marvel Studios villain so far, or maybe the equal of Loki as the two best. So much of what makes a superhero show good depends on how strong the villain is. Daredevil also had a lot of nice touches and small details, like Karen seeming flawed from the start, and Melvin Potter AKA the Gladiator be the one who makes DD's costume! Yes, he was a tailor, and did switch sides to become a DD supporter in the comics, so that was a perfect fit! Leland Owlsey AKA the Owl! I love it! The Daredevil vs Ninja fight was like something right out of a Frank Miller storyboard, and a lot of the lighting and use of darks was reminiscent of Klaus Janson inks.
Last Edit: Dec 15, 2017 10:18:06 GMT -5 by GRWelsh
Started watching JESSICA JONES, and it's really good so far. I'm enjoying it just as much as DAREDEVIL. I like all of the characters, although Luke Cage doesn't seem like the comic book character. He said, "Sweet Christmas!" once and it was a reminder of who he is supposed to be. I like him, he just seems like a different person. I suppose they really couldn't do the 70's Blaxploitation "Shaft" version with the wide lapels and chain for a belt. I can see where this is going already... Jessica Jones, Hellcat and Luke Cage team up against the Purple Man, an old Daredevil villain, so I can expect Daredevil to make an appearance as well!
Last Edit: Dec 30, 2017 10:23:56 GMT -5 by GRWelsh
I'm still trying to catch up. I'm working my way through DAREDEVIL season 2 and I love it so far. Great versions of the Punisher and Electra. Some of it just over the top fun, like when the Yakuza are zipping through the city on their motorcyles and ending up fighting Daredevil and Electra. Pure comic book fun! I keep waiting for Bullseye to show up, now! I thought it was that Irish mobster, at first, but that wasn't him.
Last Edit: Apr 13, 2018 10:41:02 GMT -5 by GRWelsh
I just finished DAREDEVIL Season 2. Yeah, D'Onofrio was born to play the Kingpin. I'm glad he was finally referred to as 'the Kingpin.' The Punisher was the best version I've seen so far, and that was a breakout performance. I loved the girl who played Electra, she had that right combination of exotic and dangerous. She's French/Cambodian instead of Greek, but that's okay. Those three, and the continued evolution of other characters from Season 1 kept my interest up. I enjoyed seeing DD get his billy club, finally, and I like how Gladiator is his armorer... Notice all the yellow back lighting in this show? It's so prominent, I always think it must be an homage to his original red and yellow costume.
Now I'm watching LUKE CAGE. I like how at the end of the first episode Genghis Connie says, "We want to hire you," and Luke says, "I'm not for hire." LOL. And I like the barber shop scenes. Really good, so far. I also had LUKE CAGE, POWER MAN comic books when I was a kid. I remember I owned issues with Mister Fish, Chemistro and Goldbug, among others. "Nobody laughs at Mister Fish!" I also the issues when he joined the FF.
Is Marvel making these movies and TV shows just for me?!? It sure feels like it!
Post by geneweigel on May 14, 2018 10:21:52 GMT -5
I watched THE PUNISHER show last week and its typical MARVEL where they make an old story contemporary and in this case make it better.
Looking back at the source material, 1987 THE PUNISHER ongoing comic was terrible that is where they get this PUNISHER show "Micro" character from. It was like reading GUNS AND AMMO in story form and it divorced the superhero material. The writer was straight off THE BADGER which was a bad habit at that point and I was thinking that was going to be as weird and instead it was like being trapped inside a barber shop filled with autistic marines. I kept wishing for interesting Punisher foes that never came and they were all throw aways. At least, the prior 1986 Zeck illustrated mini-series had a villain (Jigsaw) and a worthy story (Castle goes to jail). I actually like this incarnation of micro better than the comic version. The comic version was like a retarded mixture of "Q", Walter Sobchak from Lebowski, and some middle-aged armchair quarterback who thinks they know everything. If Frank Castle was level 10 going into the 1986 limited series then he was level 3 by the end of the 1980's thanks to the introduction of Micro. Seeing this version was so much better than any of that garbage.
it was like being trapped inside a barber shop filled with autistic marines.
LOL! I'm still on LUKE CAGE, which is great, and I'm watching them in order so I haven't seen PUNISHER yet. But I loved the character in DAREDEVIL Season Two which was still drawing on Frank Miller's run, which I'm very familiar with. I didn't read the late 80's/early 90's Punisher comic books which seem to be when the character exploded in popularity. I was "out" of comics at that time. But yeah, from what I could see, it seemed to be a character divorced of the superhero genre. There seemed to be a lot of that at the time, angry guys with guns. The fans always seemed to be people with anger issues and a simplistic world view: "Ain't nothing wrong with killing bad guys."
My main issue with Punisher is how the character only works as a 'hero' as long as he doesn't kill any innocent people. But nobody's perfect, and eventually there has to be some collateral damage.
There were people in the military that I knew at that time, that had very select titles that they could read without being considered "weak".
Unfortunately, the unpolished grandeur of SGT FURY was long gone and the low key SGT ROCK was its displaced "macho grab" that most grunts would grab for when asked about comics.
The only reason I know this was because of the piles of comic garbage that I surrounded myself in. I would be constantly sketching new evil and good characters. By the end of the 80's I had more characters than DC (and all it's takeovers that it absorbed) and Marvel combined. So when someone was "back from the service" they'd always get sent my way to see if "we can buzzcut that mane" (My family sounds like jackasses but this is actually when the civil people were still alive!) So the conversation would bend towards what they knew about what I was doing, etc., etc.
It must have been a market because that NEW UNIVERSE title "MERC" was totally out of place with the rest of the 80's super glop titles.
Sorry, I just realized some of you may not be familiar with the NEW UNIVERSE. It was an "imprint" of Marvel that ran from 1986 to 1989 that was a separate universe that had a space lightning bolt affect certain people. So the result was a shared universe of quasi-superness that ultimately did not deliver at all.
I totally missed the New Universe. So, that's weird, it was kind of like an earlier and less successful version of the Ultimate Universe. I just read that Jim Shooter originally wanted to reboot the mainstream Marvel Universe with all #1 issues, and the characters updated to the 'present day,' but that idea was rejected. So, they did the New Universe instead ("the world outsider your window") but budget cuts and internal politics doomed it to failure.
Post by geneweigel on May 15, 2018 10:03:43 GMT -5
Marvel without a Kirby influence? IMPOSSIBLE!
Seriously, my latecoming cousin never fit in with the comics talk that upwards of twenty of my crowd were routinely discussing at anytime so everytime he came up to the big house in Connecticut he felt like he was missing something. His father was like "the navy made my brain into a paranoid impulsive weirdo so no son of mine is going to read comics! Thats for sissies like... like... this kid over here with the glasses. " (I think I'm paraphrasing! ) So this was the rebellion that he was dealing with and I appeared to be his savior with being a cool-headed, open-minded and unafraid which was the opposite of what his alternate reality Dad was saying. So he felt like he was missing something and he jumped on that NEW UNIVERSE train hard. Man, what a bad time to get into comics! I remember falling off after ten issues of each and being critical and he didn't want to hear it. I think he was sympathizing with outcast characters in DP7 because he had that "chubby kid who thinks he's a quarterback" thing going on and there was some kind of awkward romantic triangle story that he was paralleling with my then insane stalker (who was never my actual gf in any way whatsoever but she wanted zero to do with him). This is very therapeutic BTW... So the whole NU fizzle I correlate with this craphole time with burgeoning psychos loosely associated.
To put things in perspective, at that time I was still in shock over teenage mutant ninjas turtles going mainstream... NOOOOO!!!!
I finished IRON FIST and started on THE DEFENDERS. IRON FIST was a slog. I liked the cast, but the writing was terrible. It was like they couldn't stay consistent with the tone or the characters. Also, a martial arts super hero show with lame martial arts is inexcusable. I like the lead actor well enough, but he's not a martial artist -- which is just ridiculous! The way they write him, he's indecisive, which wears thin fast. It's never clear what his motivation is or what the villains are after. It's all so muddled. If I weren't a completist I would have stopped watching it. I got through it only because it sets up THE DEFENDERS.
P. S. As an aside, I recently found out the Karen Page actress -- Deborah Ann Woll -- plays D&D. What's not to like?
Last Edit: Aug 29, 2018 12:22:11 GMT -5 by GRWelsh
Post by geneweigel on Sept 7, 2018 13:36:58 GMT -5
I'm about 4 episodes in JESSICA JONES season 2. It seems like its building up to a reveal of some kind but I haven't figured it out yet. It seems like I've read a comic like this but not sure yet. Anyway, its still very grim and not as goody goody as the rest of the shows so not recommended for kids.