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Post by Scott on Aug 11, 2016 16:20:52 GMT -5
Started reading this. The new novel by Nick Cutter. I really like it so far. Horror, has a humanity is insignificant, bleak Lovecraft vibe. Love the writing style. A research station 8 miles below the ocean. A weird goo. I reccomend it.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 12, 2016 11:37:43 GMT -5
I just downloaded it as a digital library book onto my Kindle. First time I've ever done that, it's kind of a nice feature... I'll check the book out over the weekend. I'm always on the lookout for good, new horror fiction. Lately, I've been listening to some horror podcasts like "Drabblecast" and "No Sleep Podcast" but the stories are real hit or miss.
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Post by Scott on Aug 12, 2016 22:53:27 GMT -5
Let me know what you think. I've been wanting to check out the No Sleep podcast, but haven't had the time.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 13, 2016 11:48:11 GMT -5
I like The Deep so far. I'm now a few chapters into Part 2. I also like the writing style: short chapters that pull you along. So far, it makes me think of Stephen King, Michael Chrichton, and the black goo from PROMETHEUS.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 13, 2016 12:44:06 GMT -5
I got it the other day when I was bored to tears. I started reading last night and got up to the part when he's looking at the mini-sub.
So far it is good in a King-esque way but with a modern flair which has the sense of awkward reality and broken people.
The science is vague enough to get by so far but coming from a health/science/research/medical/veterinary background some bits are making me do a double take.
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Post by Scott on Aug 13, 2016 15:15:33 GMT -5
Crichton & King was the same vibe I got.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 15, 2016 9:25:13 GMT -5
I only made it as far as Westlake's journal. I'm a slow reader. But I'm really enjoying it, so far -- thanks for the recommendation.
I keep having the feeling I've read this before. I think that is because it draws elements from other stories or movies. If I gave it some thought, I could come up with a list. Stephen King is certainly the biggest influence, to the point that this book should be dedicated to him because it is using his writing style and to some extent even his 'voice' if you know what I mean. Like the way the main character imagines monsters talking to him sounds like it could be taken right out of IT.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 15, 2016 9:55:06 GMT -5
Like the way the main character imagines monsters talking to him sounds like it could be taken right out of IT. Thats what I was thinking as well. The part with the frogs anyway. So far, I'm a little past the section you're on Gary (memory about a childhood object thats on the station), there seems to be three maybe four separate sci-fi fantasy elements going on. 1) The brother's intellect 2) The worldwide disease 3) The deep sea ambrosia 4) The main character's unexplained past problems which are getting more and more strange The terrible mom takes the cake though.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 19, 2016 7:19:03 GMT -5
I finished it last night. I kept thinking Nyarlathotep and Stephen King's IT. I enjoyed it, but I'm still digesting the ending.
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The Deep
Aug 19, 2016 20:55:05 GMT -5
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Post by Scott on Aug 19, 2016 20:55:05 GMT -5
It's got a Stephen King out of nowhere ending. I really liked the writing style. I might read the author's first book. Another one I heard was good is Slade House.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 20, 2016 11:48:31 GMT -5
Prompted by you guys, I finished this morning.
Definitely a Lovecraft inspired tale especially the psych journals.
I'm not sure I understand the end.
<<<< WARNING SPOILER >>>>>
An elaborate roundabout way for it to break the ancient banishment with a willing subject?
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Post by Scott on Aug 20, 2016 12:32:06 GMT -5
From this point on, THERE BE SPOILERS!!!!
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Post by Scott on Aug 20, 2016 12:41:35 GMT -5
I don't know if I'd call him "willing". Broken, maybe? He was shattered by that point of the book, and no longer human after accepting the gift. Willing is almost like 'magic' needed to break a curse. Maybe no resistance from the receiver to merge? Maybe just a body that wouldn't kill itself before allowing it to happen? Not sure. The Trieste was the name of the first sub to ever reach the bottom of the Challenger Deep. Did they mention that in the book? I can't remember. The last chapters on the Trieste were so fucked up in a great way.
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 20, 2016 13:39:11 GMT -5
Its like CALL OF CTHULHU meets THE SHINING but instead of it being about an artist and a psychic its about a genius and his brother indirectly. Was his mom's behavior a separate thing though?
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Post by Scott on Aug 20, 2016 14:47:23 GMT -5
I don't know about the mother. I think she was just messed up.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 21, 2016 10:59:22 GMT -5
The first half was better than the last half. The ending was a bit like reading an author's notes on "Here's what's going on behind the scenes" -- but in this case, sketchy ideas that are half-baked. Maybe that's why I'm having trouble digesting it. I'm not so sure the big reveal at the end was a good choice... Keeping the explanation unknown is scarier -- and therefore better -- than providing an explanation that doesn't quite make sense.
I did like the grim bleakness of the ending, though. It's good to see the monsters win, now and then, in horror novels!
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Post by geneweigel on Aug 21, 2016 11:56:13 GMT -5
Its vague enough so you don't know if anything supernaturally weird ever happened to this guy outside the underwater station you just have accept his narration when he is obviously under the influence of a psychic attack on his memories.
The ambrosia is real or is it only real in that it can make people believe things that aren't true? So maybe the original video of the experiments that received all the funding was a trick made by addled scientists.
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Post by GRWelsh on Aug 22, 2016 7:24:50 GMT -5
I had assumed the monsters (fig men/evil gods) were able to do some physical effects as well as psychological effects, with their power level much stronger when closer to their 'lair' (or 'prison') deep below the surface. And hence the need for bait. But it wasn't always clear what was an illusion in the minds of the victims, and what was really happening. I think that line was intentionally blurred by the author.
Like did Toy really get crushed by a collapsing ceiling in the Trieste? Did Westlake really self-heal and give birth to monster-bees? Did Clayton's arm and hand really transform? Or were all of those things illusions, too? I'm not sure.
I suppose when you're dealing with evil entities of godlike power who can read your mind and push all of your psychological buttons just for fun, the end result is the same and it might as well be physical. It's like getting hit with a phantasmal killer!
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