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Post by Scott on Jun 11, 2013 14:08:26 GMT -5
Anybody seen the new trailer yet? I hear there's finally a good view of Smaug. I'll have to check it out when I get home from work.
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 11, 2013 14:47:27 GMT -5
I saw it earlier on my phone. The dragon looks cool but I won't say anything else.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jun 11, 2013 19:16:24 GMT -5
At least the trailers are awesome.
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 11, 2013 22:38:53 GMT -5
I guess that was Beorn's nose.
So far after watching the depictions of the creatures in these films I'm firmly in the camp that most should look different than they are shown. I think they are touching on what we want but are missing the target and going for more kewl fare.
That goblin king in the first for example was offputting. I've never presented an orc encounter to go down like that! And that must be from thousands of them! Unfortunately though I've played in bad D&D campaigns featured that same "story" rubber ride feel like that.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jun 12, 2013 7:39:13 GMT -5
Ugh. Don't remind me. I hated that "amusement park ride" in Goblin-Town! It makes me nauseous right now just thinking about it.
It's funny though that I watch the new trailer and I get excited and hopeful again. I remember when I saw the first trailer, I got goosebumps from the dwarf song. I thought, "It looks like they might actually do this right!"
Comments under the new trailer on YouTube were along the lines of "Legolas is back! WUDUP ORCS!" and people arguing over whether Legolas should legitimately be in this movie. Actually, that is legitimate, since he's the son of the Elvenking, Thranduil, but I just hope they don't overdo it by giving him a huge role. I can see it already...
Legolas snowboards down the side of the Lonely Mountain,
"LEGOLAS IS COMING! LEGOLAS IS COMING!"
He shoots the arrow that kills Smaug, and then like a superhero helps take down Azog in the Battle of the Five Armies.
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Post by Scott on Jun 12, 2013 10:22:50 GMT -5
I read that PJ wanted Viggo in as Aragorn, but he turned them down because it diverged too far from the Tolkien material.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jun 12, 2013 10:30:59 GMT -5
Wow. Good for Viggo.
For a fact, Aragorn would have been in Rivendell when Bilbo, Gandalf and the dwarves were there, but he would have been ten years old at the time!
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Post by Scott on Jun 12, 2013 10:40:28 GMT -5
When I watched the Hobbit, I thought the movie was suffering from an identity crisis. It was part light-hearted, almost children’s book material with singing dwarves tossing plates around, close to the original. It was part Tolkien material but with a more serious, LotR feel. And it was part PJ bloody, violent, crappy action movie with a fantasy setting.
The Goblin Town, theme park ride in-the-making material wouldn’t have annoyed me so much if it was consistent with the rest of the movie, but because there was no consistency, it made me want to puke. The Jackson original material is pretty terrible.
Smaug did look like a 1st Age throwback though; a dragon that could put a whole dwarven kingdom on the run.
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Post by GRWelsh on Jun 12, 2013 13:15:40 GMT -5
I wasn't really bothered by the shift in tone back and forth from whimsical childish fantasy to dramatic LOTR seriousness, since if that is inherent in the source material. If you really wanted to stay true to the book, there are singing dwarves juggling plates and blue-collar trolls. But there are also moments of real danger and drama.
I was mainly bothered by the non-Tolkien additions to the story, like the Azog subplot.
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 12, 2013 16:06:54 GMT -5
Ugh. Don't remind me. I hated that "amusement park ride" in Goblin-Town! It makes me nauseous right now just thinking about it. It's funny though that I watch the new trailer and I get excited and hopeful again. I remember when I saw the first trailer, I got goosebumps from the dwarf song. I thought, "It looks like they might actually do this right!" Comments under the new trailer on YouTube were along the lines of "Legolas is back! WUDUP ORCS!" and people arguing over whether Legolas should legitimately be in this movie. Actually, that is legitimate, since he's the son of the Elvenking, Thranduil, but I just hope they don't overdo it by giving him a huge role. I can see it already... Legolas snowboards down the side of the Lonely Mountain, "LEGOLAS IS COMING! LEGOLAS IS COMING!" He shoots the arrow that kills Smaug, and then like a superhero helps take down Azog in the Battle of the Five Armies. I think its a regular cafeteria of things to get steamed about! The King Kong remake is a scary movie. It has no life outside the original film but it goes to these dumb zones anyway just to impress American English-speaking demographics. |
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Post by geneweigel on Jun 12, 2013 19:39:43 GMT -5
Its weird just because KING KONG could have been just as illiterately as bad as JOURNEY 2 THE MYSTERIOUS ISLAND but its more painful because its expected to be something else.
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